Author Elif Shafak on vaccine tribalism, inherited pain and talking trees

Award-winning British-Turkish writer Elif Shafak has written 19 books and been translated into more than 50 languages. She's also a political activist as well as an advocate for women's rights and freedom of expression. The author speaks to Eve Jackson about her new novel "The Island Of Missing Trees" which is being translated into French, why men should read more fiction to help them understand the world and the dangers of a "Them and Us" mentality, especially when it comes to vaccines.