Writer Carrie Courogen's 'We Didn't Start the Fire' Litmus Test

<p>Writer and video producer Carrie Courogen works for the seminal music website Pitchfork, and is also writing a much-anticipated book about the life of famously press-shy screenwriter and director Elaine May, due out in 2023 on St. Martin's Press. Carrie joins Nic to talk to him about the difficult art of writing a book about someone who makes it a point not to give interviews, the precision she puts into crafting sad playlists, and having the childhood musical taste of a boomer.</p>