What we could gain by engaging with oil companies

<p>Paul and Emile discuss BlackRock and the rest of the firms on Texas’ sustainable investing blacklist, and how ESG investing is yet another political issue polarizing our country.  Then Emile speaks with Roos Wijker of Follow This, a grassroots organization and collective of shareholders. Roos talks about the group's efforts to push Big Oil companies to accelerate the energy transition by setting emission reduction targets aligned with the Paris Climate Agreement. </p>