We Want to Hire Honest People Who Think Like Criminals

<p>All links and images for this episode can be found on <a href= "https://cisoseries.com/we-want-to-hire-honest-people-who-think-like-criminals"> CISO Series</a></p> <p>What game should we play where we can trust you to behave fairly, but at the same time see how you could take advantage of us?</p> <p>This week’s episode is hosted by me, <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidspark/">David Spark</a> (<a href="http://twitter.com/dspark">@dspark</a>), producer of CISO Series and <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikevj/">Mike Johnson</a>. Our guest is <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/deneendefiore/">Deneen DiFiore</a> (<a href= "http://twitter.com/deneendifiore">@deneendifiore</a>), CISO, <a href="http://unitedairlines.com/">United Airlines</a>.</p> <p><strong>Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Code42</strong></p> <p><a title="Code42" href= "https://www.code42.com/go/cpg-reputation-awareness-security/?utm_source=ciso&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=_cpg-reputation&utm_content=2021_cpg-reputation-awareness_podcast"> <img src= "https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/show/24425/Code42_Q1_RepCamp_Ad7_600x100.png" alt="Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Code42" width="640" height= "100" /></a></p> <p><em>As organizations gradually and cautiously move out of adapt out of adapt-or-die mode into the post-pandemic era, we can expect a second phase of digital transformation: resilience building. This presents an opportunity for security teams. An opportunity to re-imagine data security. </em><a href= "https://www.code42.com/go/cpg-reputation-awareness-security/?utm_source=ciso&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=_cpg-reputation&utm_content=2021_cpg-reputation-awareness_podcast"><em>More from Code42</em></a><em>.</em></p> <p>In this episode:</p> <ul> <li>Does becoming a business-minded security person take time?</li> <li>What does a qualified, entry level candidate have to do to get noticed?</li> <li>Without clear ROI, how does a CISO justify their budget?</li> <li>What game taught you the most about thinking like a hacker?</li> <