'We have to re-adapt quickly to a long-term threat': Ex-Estonian president Kaljulaid

Talking Europe speaks to Kersti Kaljulaid, who was the first and only female president of Estonia, from 2016 to 2021. Her name has been linked to the top job in NATO, as Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg is expected to step down this autumn. We discuss her potential interest in the job, as well as her view on the current levels of support for Ukraine, both in NATO and the European Union.