[Unedited] Esther Perel with Krista Tippett

<p>The psychotherapist Esther Perel has changed our discourse about sexuality and coupledom with her TED talks, her books, and her podcast,<i> Where Should We Begin? </i>Episode after episode lays bare the theater of relationship, which is also the drama of being human. Her insights speak to the flip side of social isolation — the intense experience many have now had of togetherness. And her deep understanding of “erotic intelligence” feels so interesting as we grapple with emergent dynamics of the human condition writ large — coupled or not, and both intimate and societal.</p><p>Esther Perel has a private couples and family therapy practice in New York. She hosts two podcasts, <i>Where Should We Begin?</i> and<i> How’s Work?</i> and is the creator of a new game called, <i>Where Should We Begin? - A Game of Stories</i>. She is also the author of two TED talks and two books, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mating-Captivity-Unlocking-Erotic-Intelligence/dp/0060753641"><i>Mating in Captivity: Unlocking Erotic Intelligence</i></a><i> </i>and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/State-Affairs-Rethinking-Infidelity/dp/0062322591"><i>The State of Affairs: Rethinking Infidelity</i></a><i>.</i></p><p>This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "Esther Perel — The Erotic Is an Antidote to Death" <a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/esther-perel-the-erotic-is-an-antidote-to-death/#transcript">Find the transcript </a>for that show at onbeing.org. </p>