Supper Club × Shipping ESM with Mark Erikson

<p class="has-line-data" data-line-start="0" data-line-end="1">In this supper club episode of Syntax, Wes and Scott talk with Mark Erikson about his work in helping others understand shipping ESM, how to deal with permutations, whether default imports are helpful, whether TypeScript has made it easier, and what Mark’s tool stack is for building.</p> <h2 class="code-line" data-line-start="2" data-line-end="3"><a id= "Show_Notes_2"></a>Show Notes</h2> <ul> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="4" data-line-end="5"> <strong><a href="#t=00:36">00:36</a></strong> Welcome</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="5" data-line-end="6"> <strong><a href="#t=01:45">01:45</a></strong> Introducing Shipping ESM with Mark Erikson</li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="6" data-line-end="7"> <a href="https://twitter.com/acemarke">Mark Erikson (@acemarke)</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="7" data-line-end="8"> <a href="https://twitter.com/wesbos/status/1610385221324619780">Wes Bos on Twitter: “publishing packages that work in esm and cjs is such a nightmare. I’ve run into so many issues today and took forever to get the proper package.json exports. I can’t wait until we’re 100% esm. I think I have every single combo covered.”</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="8" data-line-end="9"> <a href="https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/">Mark’s Dev Blog</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="9" data-line-end="10"> <a href= "https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2023/08/esm-modernization-lessons/"> Blogged Answers: My Experience Modernizing Packages to ESM</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="10" data-line-end="11"> <a href= "https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2020/08/greatest-hits/">Greatest Hits: The Most Popular and Most Useful Posts I’ve Written</a></li> <li class="has-line-data" data-line-start="11" data-line-end="12"> <a href= "https://github.com/arethetypeswrong/arethetypeswrong.github.io">arethetypeswrong.github.io: Tool for analyzing TypeScript types of npm