Peter Wehner and Jonathan Rauch on ”Morality Is for Trump What Colors Are to the Color-Blind”

<p>Jonathan Rauch and Pete Wehner both return to the TP&amp;R pod. Only this time we get them together! For a little background, Jon and Pete have a number of fundamental differences (eg. Jon is an atheist and Pete is a devout Christian); yet, they also happen to be good friends. So the conversation was flowing before we even hit record. We were discussing Pete's recent essay in THE ATLANTIC "Morality Is for Trump What Colors Are to the Color-Blind." We discussed pervasive cognitive dissonance, specifically on the part of people of faith and their continued embrace of Donald Trump. We also talked about our own need to have epistemological humility. Then we explored a construct that Jon is fleshing out for an upcoming book. That is, the 4 existential questions of 1) Morality, 2) Mortality, 3) Malevolence, and 4) Miracles. </p> <p> </p> <p><a href='https://www.theatlantic.com/author/peter-wehner/'>Pete Wehner</a> is a contributing writer at The Atlantic and a senior fellow at the Trinity Forum. His books include <a href='https://www.amazon.com/dp/0062820796/?tag=theatl0c-20'>The Death of Politics: How to Heal Our Frayed Republic After Trump</a>, <a href='https://bookshop.org/a/12476/9780802458575'>City of Man: Religion and Politics in a New Era</a>, which he co-wrote with Michael Gerson, and <a href='https://bookshop.org/a/12476/9780844743776'>Wealth and Justice: The Morality of Democratic Capitalism</a>. He was formerly a speechwriter for George W. Bush and a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Peter is a contributing opinion writer for The New York Times, and his work also appears in publications including The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, and National Affairs.</p> <p> </p> <p><a href='https://jonathanrauch.typepad.com/'>JONATHAN RAUCH</a>, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, is the author of eight books and many articles on public policy, culture, and government. He is a contributing writer for The Atlantic and many other publications including The New Republic, The Econom