Part 2, the conclusion, with UMASS’ Brock Hines.

The closing moments of my chat with UMass’ Brock Hines. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. <a href="https://anchor.fm/app">https://anchor.fm/app</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/john-leahy/message