Joe's Process with the Church, the difficulty of ministry, and why you shouldn't give up on the Church

<p>Today we sat down with a friend of mine, his name is Joe Vasiliauskas. Joe spent many years working in the Church and talks about the ups and the downs of his career. Joe also spends some time encouraging us to not give up on the Church, his current role, and how can you encourage your pastors at your Church. Enjoy the episode! </p>