HBH 53: 23,000 Year-Old White Sands Footprints with Dr. Edward Jolie

This week I wander off the topic of Life Extension (more next episode) to take advantage of an opportunity to interview an anthropologist about the White Sands footprints.<br /><br />Not since the Laetoli Australopithecus prints has a set of human footprints rocked the world of paleontology like those found in White Sands, New Mexico. Studies have dated these prints to 21-23,000 year ago, more than 6000 years older than humans were known to have arrived in the Americas!<br /><br />Many scientist are convinced the date is accurate; but if it is, it means a reshaping of an entire paradigm.<br /><br />In this episode I speak with Dr. Edward Jolie about his work, and about those prints. <br /><br />Dr. Jolie is the Clara Lee Tanner Associate Professor of Anthropology (School of Anthropology) and Associate Curator of Ethnology (Arizona State Museum) at the University of Arizona. <br /><br />In this wide-ranging discussion we cover:<br /><br />0: 00 Intro to Dr. Jolie and his work<br />12:10 Were the Anasazi (Ancestral Pueblo people) cannibals? (Sorry, I couldn't resist the Man Corn debate!)<br />14:40 The White Sands footprints<br />16:40 The "Clovis First" paradigm (ie., the "Standard Model" of peopling of Americas<br />20:50. Why the White Sands prints are potential paradigm changers<br />28:40 The reliability of oral cultural transmission<br />30:40 Two objections to the 21-23K year old dating<br /><br />Thank you to Dr. Jolie for sharing his insights with us. See him here: https://www.nps.gov/media/video/view.htm%3Fid%3DA09EF77D-2A1B-47FD-A9B9-B9F1EC9BD00E<br /><br /><br /><br />Graphic by Ian Armstrong<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/5806452/advertisement">https://www.spreaker.com/show/5806452/advertisement</a>