Episode #10 - Rik Logtenberg

Today I'm talking with Rick Logtenberg. He is an environmental activist, and entrepreneur a city counselor, and the founder of climatecaucus.ca. We explore conflicts related to the local e-bike and transit improvement projects that the city is working on. Rik talks about how to get the local government to listen to you and how to be empathetic to your counterparts, even when they dehumanize you.