#92 Good Data Mesh Governance Through Empathy and Partnership - Interview w/ Jay Como and Elizabeth Calloway

https://www.patreon.com/datameshradio (Data Mesh Radio Patreon) - get access to interviews well before they are released Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts (most interviews from #32 on) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZmCIinVgIm0xjIVFpL9jMtCiOlBQ7LbvLmtmb0FKcQc/edit?usp=sharing (here) Provided as a free resource by DataStax https://www.datastax.com/products/datastax-astra?utm_source=DataMeshRadio (AstraDB) Transcript for this episode (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-xh94Bry34KhWCgFE-b2GPzWUKGRkqh9fVpKoAoPl_Y/edit?usp=sharing (link)) provided by Starburst. See their Data Mesh Summit recordings https://www.starburst.io/learn/events-webinars/datanova-on-demand/?datameshradio (here) and their great data mesh resource center https://www.starburst.io/info/distributed-data-mesh-resource-center/?datameshradio (here) In this episode, Scott interviewed Jay Como, Head of Finance Data, and Elizabeth (Liz) Calloway, Director of Finance Data Products at Silicon Valley Bank. To be clear, they were only representing their own views and experiences. Some key takeaways/thoughts from the conversation: The governance team should "wear them down with empathy." Take the time to share your context, learn their context, make them feel seen and heard. That will get them to see you as a partner and good governance is truly about partnering, not mandating or being a gate/hurdle to get past. Great governance is the pathway to great data. Great data leads to great decisions which lead to great outcomes. Share that path to great outcomes so people can see a clear answer to "why are we doing this?" Governance isn't just risk mitigation, it can be a significant - if almost always hidden/secret - value driver. To drive governance buy-in from data producers, again, lead with empathy. Let them in on the "why" - why does this matter? What is the business value? How can this benefit them? "Help me help you" is a good approach to talking to internal teams about data governance. You are there to drive val