#9 Jackson and Lieber on Are We Our Own Worst Enemy?

<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">During this episode, we discuss with</span> <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-jackson-9863172"><span style= "font-weight: 400;">COL Mike Jackson</span></a> <span style= "font-weight: 400;">and</span> <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/paullieber"><span style= "font-weight: 400;">Dr. Paul Lieber</span></a> <span style= "font-weight: 400;">their recently co-authored article</span> <a href= "https://cyberdefensereview.army.mil/Portals/6/Documents/CDR%20Journal%20Articles/Summer%202000/CDR%20V5N2%20Summer%202020-r8-1.pdf"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">“Countering Disinformation: Are We Our Own Worst Enemy?”</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. Referencing Richard Stengle’s recent book:</span> <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802149421/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=ipa09b-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=0802149421&linkId=fead13cd3279baace5c77c581f25dd23"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Information Wars: How We Lost the Global Battle Against Disinformation and What We Can Do About it</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, Mike and Paul make the case that well intentioned people frequently resort to “tribalism” which has a nonproductive effect. In 2015, Mike was part of a EUCOM and Department of State combined effort called the Russia Information Group (or RIG); he recounts the stand up of the RIG and relates lessons learned for improving information operations going forward. We conclude by discussing what’s at stake for America and our allies.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Interested listeners should also check out:</span> <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1984854631/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=ipa09b-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=1984854631&linkId=1deab9cc1b1d234cd76549aef6914c29"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Mindf*ck: Cambridge Analytica and the Plot to Break America</span></a> by Christopher Wylie<span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"