570 - How to Be a Climate Change Advocate: Persistence is Key In Climate Change Action

<p>In a two-part conversation that begins while facing down a tiny yet fierce migratory bird on the coastal plain of the Arctic National Refuge to a celebration on the south lawn of the White House, guest host <strong>Shelley Hearne</strong>, director of the Johns Hopkins Lerner Center for Public Health Advocacy, and <strong>David Kieve</strong>, president of the Environmental Defense Action Fund, discuss why the new climate bill is so critical, what it took to get this massive piece of legislation to the finish line.</p>