29. Dave Calleja from Isobar: How agencies build design systems

<p>Dave Calleja and Chris discuss getting clients to sign off on design systems, strategies for getting executive buy-in, and the role of designer as evangelist.<br/><br/><em>Guest:<br/><br/></em>Dave Calleja is Head of Design at Isobar. He’s been working in digital and UX for over 15 years, from tiny teams to federal government projects. At Isobar he’s pursuing a strong passion for developing insight-aware, hypothesis-led experimentation cultures to empower experience-led transformation. You can find Dave at <a href='https://davecalleja.net/'>davecalleja.net</a>, on Twitter as <a href='https://twitter.com/davecalleja'>@davecalleja</a>, and on <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/davecalleja/'>LinkedIn</a>.<br/><br/><em>Host:<br/><br/></em>Chris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of <a href='https://www.knapsack.cloud/'>Knapsack</a>, host of <a href='https://twitter.com/thedspod'>@TheDSPod</a>, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as <a href='https://twitter.com/chrisstrahl'>@chrisstrahl</a> and on <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisstrahl/'>LinkedIn</a>.<br/><br/><em>Sponsor:<br/><br/></em>Knapsack: design once, build once, use everywhere. Knapsack is a design system platform rooted in code for shipping consistent apps in half the time. Learn more at <a href='https://www.knapsack.cloud'>knapsack.cloud</a>.<br/><br/><em>Links:<br/><br/></em>View the <a href='https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HB859a7ZpWWJEcwgCrkujGqqCx-aQozw/view?usp=sharing'>transcript</a> for this episode.</p>