25. Eric Lobdell from Facebook: Anticipating deviation to drive adoption and contribution

<p>Eric and Chris discuss how and why Facebook’s design system has evolved over time, anticipating deviation and its positive impact on adoption and contribution, getting other teams to think like system designers and empowering them to create their own systems, what signals to consider when measuring the success of your system and advocacy work.<br/><br/><em>Guest:<br/><br/></em>Eric Lobdell is a Design Systems Team Lead at Facebook, managing a button that’s touched over 3 million times an hour. You can find Eric at <a href='https://www.lobdell.me/'>lobdell.me</a>, on Twitter as <a href='https://twitter.com/lobdeli'>@lobdelI</a>, and on <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericben/'>LinkedIn</a>.<br/><br/><em>Host:<br/><br/></em>Chris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of <a href='https://www.knapsack.cloud/'>Knapsack</a>, host of <a href='https://twitter.com/thedspod'>@TheDSPod</a>, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as <a href='https://twitter.com/chrisstrahl'>@chrisstrahl</a> and on <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisstrahl/'>LinkedIn</a>.<br/><br/><em>Sponsor:</em></p><p>Knapsack — Design once. Build Once. Use everywhere. Learn more at <a href='https://www.knapsack.cloud/'>knapsack.cloud</a> about Knapsack and getting your team working in a better way.<br/><br/><em>Links:<br/><br/></em>View the <a href='https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oTP5Wr4GAT9ljm3xVr3zATxUNK_vOR4H/view?usp=sharing'>transcript</a> for this episode.</p>