13.6 Dame Stephanie Shirley CH, Entrepreneur

<p>Are you sitting comfortably? Viv Groskop talks to Dame Stephanie "Steve" Shirley CH, the businesswoman, philanthropist and technology pioneer. They explore why she changed her name - and why she brought her kitchen stool to America to give her TED talk in front of Bill Gates. Dame Stephanie argues that women must learn to ask for money: our input won't be valued if we don't value ourselves. She reveals how she learned a "healthy selfishness" after ending up in hospital, and tells Viv the single secret of success in business and romance...</p> <div>Find out more about Stephanie's work at <a href= "https://www.steveshirley.com/">steveshirley.com</a></div> <div> <p>Viv's latest book, <a href= "https://uk.bookshop.org/books/lift-as-you-climb-women-and-the-art-of-ambition/9781787633049">Lift As You Climb</a> is out now.</p> <p><a href= "https://www.instagram.com/vivgroskop/?hl=en">@vivgroskop</a></p> </div>