[Unedited] Bessel van der Kolk with Krista Tippett

<p>When Krista interviewed the psychiatrist and trauma specialist Bessel van der Kolk for the first time, his book <i>The Body Keeps the Score</i> was about to be published. She described him then as “an innovator in treating the effects of overwhelming experiences on people and society.” She catches up with him in 2021 — as we are living through one vast overwhelming experience after the other. And <i>The Body Keeps the Score</i> is now one of the most widely read books in the pandemic world. His perspective is utterly unique and very practically helpful — on what’s been happening in our bodies and our brains, and how that relationship can become severed and restored.</p><p>Bessel van der Kolk is the founder and medical director of the Trauma Research Foundation in Brookline, Massachusetts. He’s also a professor of psychiatry at Boston University Medical School. His books include <i>Traumatic Stress: The Effects of Overwhelming Experience on the Mind, Body, and Society</i> and <i>The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma.</i></p><p>This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "Bessel van der Kolk — TITLE." Find <a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/bessel-van-der-kolk-trauma-the-body-and-2021/#transcript">the transcript</a> for that show at onbeing.org.</p><p>This show originally aired in July 2013.</p>