S06 Episode 277 | Questioning how we *value* garments & respecting the limits of partnership across fashion with Jesus Herrera

<p class="" data-pm-slice="1 1 []">In episode 277, Kestrel welcomes Jesus Herrera — a model, clothing designer, vintage curator, and poet — to the show. Also known by their moniker Donatella because of their Instagram handle <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/donatellaversanchez/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">@donatellaversanchez</a>, Jesus is the cofounder of the vintage jesus online store and Les Jesus fashion brand.</p> <p><strong>“I’ve also brought space to my partnerships. I’ve also brought an understanding that I should not interfere and I should not demand from a culture that has existed for hundreds and sometimes thousands of years in one specific way, just because I have a purpose or just because I have a need or just because I have a goal in mind. My purpose, my need and my goal are my own. But my purpose and my need and my goal should not interfere with somebody else’s happiness, with their way of life, with how they think that the best quality of life is lived or led.” -Jesus</strong></p> <p class="" data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Have you ever noticed the way that certain garments are <strong>valued</strong> more than others? Or the way that some craftsmanship styles are aligned with couture or exceptional quality, and others are not held to that same regard?</p> <p class="">This week’s guest reminds us of some of these ways that specific garments are valued differently than others, and how so often these perceptions are based largely around <em>who</em> wears those garments.</p> <p class="">For example, how does the fashion industry value a piece of clothing, if it’s worn by the <em>ladies who lunch</em>? What about if it’s worn by an <em>Indigenous person</em>?</p> <p class="">One theme that recurs throughout our conversation is finding ways to resist this dichotomy between who is valued and who is not.</p> <p class="" data-pm-slice="1 1 []">As this week’s guest notes –<br /> “Not only one set of people who have a certain set of resources matter more than another set of people in the world. This is how