4. Matt Berninger, Carin Besser, & J. Hope Stein: The Poetry of Mike’s favorite band “The National”

<div>Mike celebrates the publication of <a href= "https://www.birbigs.com/the-new-one-book" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">"The New One, Painfully True Stories from a Reluctant Dad”</a> with his co-writer and co-wife J. Hope Stein. They are joined by Matt Berninger, the lead singer of Mike’s favorite band "The National” as well as Matt’s co-writer and co-wife Carin Besser. This creative double date goes deep as the two married couples open up about creative marriages, actual marriages, and how writing poetry can feel like knitting. </div> <div> </div> <div>Please consider supporting:</div> <div><a href="https://7inchesforplannedparenthood.com/" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">7-Inches For Planned Parenthood</a></div>