Mark Lawrence and Mark Updegrove, Hosts of the “With the Bark Off” Podcast

<p>Mark Lawrence and Mark Updegrove are two of this country’s most preeminent&nbsp;historians of the American Presidency—they also host the superb history podcast “With the Bark Off”.&nbsp;On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we have a wide-ranging discussion of the most powerful job in the world and the men who made it so.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Sponsors</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>•&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://veteranstrategies.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Veteran Strategies</a></p><p>•&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nfp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NFP -&nbsp;A leading insurance broker and consultant</a></p><p>•&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://garmong.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Garmong Construction</a></p><p>•&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.crowneplaza.com/ind-downtown" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>About Veteran Strategies</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.</p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p>