30. Jehad Affoneh from Splunk and Scott Mathis from VMware: Schrodinger's tokens, open-source, and components

<p>Jehad Affoneh, Scott Mathis, and Chris discuss the advantages of open-source, the role of content in design systems, the pattern-based approach to building apps, and similarities between music and tokens.<br/><br/><b><em>Guests:</em></b><em><br/><br/></em>Jehad Affoneh is Chief Design Officer at Splunk (formerly Head of Design at VMware). He’s an experienced design and business leader who writes frequently about user experience, leadership, management, and business. You can find Jehad at <a href='https://twitter.com/jaffoneh'>mynameisjehad.com</a>, on Twitter as <a href='https://twitter.com/jaffoneh'>@jaffoneh</a>, and on <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaffoneh/'>LinkedIn</a>.<br/><br/>Scott Mathis is the Technical Lead for Clarity Design System Web Components at VMware. He has 10+ years of specialization in user experience and front-end development and co-founded a design system that is being used by thousands of developers across a half-dozen Fortune 500 companies. You can find Scott at <a href='http://github.com/mathisscott'>github.com/mathisscott</a>, on Twitter as <a href='https://twitter.com/mathis_scott'>@mathis_scott</a>, and on <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-mathis-7554592/'>LinkedIn</a>.<br/><br/><b><em>Host:</em></b></p><p>Chris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of <a href='https://www.knapsack.cloud/'>Knapsack</a>, host of <a href='https://twitter.com/thedspod'>@TheDSPod</a>, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as <a href='https://twitter.com/chrisstrahl'>@chrisstrahl</a> and on <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisstrahl/'>LinkedIn</a>.</p><p><b><em>Sponsor:</em></b></p><p>Knapsack: design once, build once, use everywhere. Knapsack is a design system platform rooted in code for shipping consistent apps in half the time. Learn more at <a href='https://www.knapsack.cloud'>knapsack.cloud</a>.</p><p><b><em>Links:</em></b></p><p><a href='https://www.knapsack.cloud/blog/ep-30-with-jehad-affoneh-and-scott-mathis'>View the transcript for this episode.</a></p